wtf? Warning and Complaint Regarding a Transaction with Member germind

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zerohero

Knight
Customer
Hello everyone,

I believe it is necessary to make this post for one main reason: to inform and protect the community, so that no other member finds themselves in a similar situation.

Those who have known me throughout the years on this forum already know how I conduct myself, the work I have contributed to the community, and the way I handle my transactions. I have made good friends here and have helped many people without asking for anything in return. I have also invested significant amounts of money, time, and personal effort into my own projects and servers.

A few months ago, I was contacted through the forum by a member named germind, who was interested in purchasing one of my projects. This project was the result of several years of work, personal effort, and a significant financial investment.

After discussing the details, we agreed on a price of $1,100 USD. The agreement also included 7 days of free support and a free logo design as additional services.

The payment through PayPal took approximately one month to become available because the funds were temporarily held by PayPal. Despite this, I had already prepared and delivered the complete project to him in .rar archive before the payment was fully released.

The package included, among other things:

  • Database files
  • Website and related tools
  • Account Panel
  • Interface and System Patch
  • Official License
  • All necessary files required to operate the project
I decided to deliver everything before the payment was fully completed because, at that point, I had no reason to believe that there would be any problem with the transaction. I do not approach every transaction with suspicion, and as many people here already know, I would rather give more than agreed than risk treating someone unfairly.

After the transaction was completed, I continued providing support for approximately one month because he was new to the Lucera platform. I helped him with the project configuration, created the logo for him, and configured the server and VPS so that he could operate everything properly.

Furthermore, because I wanted complete transparency regarding the project, I gave him full access to my server so that he could personally verify that everything was clean and that there was no spyware or any other hidden or malicious component.

He even performed the checks together with three other people, and after the inspection, he gave me his final “OK”, confirming that everything was fine.

For this reason, I consider it extremely serious that approximately four months after the transaction was completed, he proceeded with a chargeback/refund process through PayPal, claiming that he allegedly did not make the payment himself.

This claim raises obvious questions, considering that there had already been direct communication between us, the complete project had been delivered, support had been provided for a significant period of time, and most importantly, he had personally confirmed that he had received and inspected the project.

What makes the situation even more questionable is that shortly before the PayPal dispute occurred, I personally contacted him to ask whether everything was working properly and whether he needed any additional assistance. I received no meaningful response.

I will not go into unnecessary details or turn this into a personal argument. Instead, I will provide the relevant evidence and information regarding this transaction so that everyone can review the facts and make their own judgment.

My intention is not to create drama or start a personal conflict. My intention is to document what happened and warn the rest of the community so that everyone can be more careful when dealing with this member in future transactions.

I also hope that the forum administration, and specifically Deazer, will review the evidence I provide and take whatever action they consider appropriate according to the rules of the community.

Everything stated above can be supported by the relevant messages, transaction records, and communication history.

The conversations I will provide below are in both Greek and English. germind himself was writing to me in Greek through ChatGPT, which is why the evidence contains messages in both languages.
 

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I will say that it is sad.
After so many years in the field I have met many such people.
Unfortunately, these things happen, and honestly it is bad to not value a person's time.
I wish there was a way to get rid of all of them,
but those who work on the internet know that this is difficult.
I hope you manage to find another buyer soon and get your money back from all that has happened.
 
I can't publish or manipulate client data, but I can help you submit a request to PayPal. Also, all his licenses will be revoked if he does not contact within 72 hours to resolve the claim.
 
I can't publish or manipulate client data, but I can help you submit a request to PayPal. Also, all his licenses will be revoked if he does not contact within 72 hours to resolve the claim.

Thanks to PayPal, he has been given a deadline of the 13th of the month to respond, but he hasn't provided any answer regarding the details I submitted to PayPal; if there is no resolution by the 13th, I will send you a message.
 
Thanks to PayPal, he has been given a deadline of the 13th of the month to respond, but he hasn't provided any answer regarding the details I submitted to PayPal; if there is no resolution by the 13th, I will send you a message.
I am very sorry that this happened, for my part I am trying my best to ensure that we are in the safest possible place together on our resource
 
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And let me add one more thing: after the initial 1,100, he offered me a refund of $65 out of the amount PayPal had withheld; I actually have two open cases against him, not just one. @Deazer
 
'm sorry to hear that, man. He probably used someone else's card or a card that wasn't authorized by the owner. I had problems like this some time ago, and it really discouraged me from running servers because of situations like this.

I lost $4,000 that was in my PayPal account because of people like him. That idiot probably won't even come forward to resolve this. Damn it.
 
With the amount of evidence you have, I strongly believe you will be fully vindicated. Don’t stress over it when everything is properly documented, PayPal has a clear basis to see what actually happened. Stay calm, submit all the proof, and let the facts speak for themselves.
 
Sorry to hear you had to go through all of this. Hopefully you’re able to get your money back and that everything gets resolved fairly.

As a small gesture from us, we’d also like to offer you a 10% sitewide discount on all VPSLab products. Hopefully it helps make the situation a little less frustrating.

Wishing you the best with the dispute, and hopefully everything gets sorted out in your favor.
 
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E deixe-me acrescentar mais uma coisa: depois dos 1.100 iniciais, ele me ofereceu um reembolso de US$ 65 do valor que o PayPal havia retido; na verdade, tenho dois processos abertos contra ele, não apenas um. @Deazer
o paypal é uma grande merda. Infelizmente! não existe nenhuma proteção para quem vende ou recebe, e eles dão meses para o comprador contestar uma compra. Já fui roubado dessa forma várias vezes e mesmo apresentando todos os comprovantes do paypal ficou do lado do comprador. Uma pena !

Espero que com seu caso seja diferente pois é um grande valor.
 
o paypal é uma grande merda. Infelizmente! não existe nenhuma proteção para quem vende ou recebe, e eles dão meses para o comprador contestar uma compra. Já fui roubado dessa forma várias vezes e mesmo apresentando todos os comprovantes do paypal ficou do lado do comprador. Uma pena !

Espero que com seu caso seja diferente pois é um grande valor.
Thank you very much, my friend. I have sent over 40 photos since the start of the conversation with this gentleman; I hope PayPal reviews everything properly and makes the right decision.
 
@Deazer

UPDATE – NEW INFORMATION REGARDING THE TRANSACTION WITH GERМIND​

I have just received new information regarding the dispute with Germind, and unfortunately, the situation has become even more serious.

After apparently realizing that he could not resolve the PayPal dispute in his favor, despite all the evidence and information I have already provided, Germind went to his bank and declared that he was not the person who made the transaction.

As a result of this action, PayPal has already charged me an additional $15 USD fee related to the chargeback/dispute initiated through his bank.

PayPal has also informed me that they will now proceed with their investigation using all the evidence and information I have provided. Unfortunately, the funds will only be returned to me if the final decision is made in my favor.

The investigation can take up to 72 days, so unfortunately I now have to wait for PayPal's final decision.

I am posting this update because I want the community to be aware of what has happened. I will continue to provide every piece of evidence I receive and will post further updates as soon as there is any new development.

Below I am also attaching several screenshots that I have just received, which document the latest developments in this case.

I will keep this thread updated until the case is fully resolved. 1788800015372.webp1788800035660.webp
 
@Deazer

UPDATE – NEW INFORMATION REGARDING THE TRANSACTION WITH GERМIND​

I have just received new information regarding the dispute with Germind, and unfortunately, the situation has become even more serious.

After apparently realizing that he could not resolve the PayPal dispute in his favor, despite all the evidence and information I have already provided, Germind went to his bank and declared that he was not the person who made the transaction.

As a result of this action, PayPal has already charged me an additional $15 USD fee related to the chargeback/dispute initiated through his bank.

PayPal has also informed me that they will now proceed with their investigation using all the evidence and information I have provided. Unfortunately, the funds will only be returned to me if the final decision is made in my favor.

The investigation can take up to 72 days, so unfortunately I now have to wait for PayPal's final decision.

I am posting this update because I want the community to be aware of what has happened. I will continue to provide every piece of evidence I receive and will post further updates as soon as there is any new development.

Below I am also attaching several screenshots that I have just received, which document the latest developments in this case.

I will keep this thread updated until the case is fully resolved. View attachment 9200View attachment 9201
Dude, he used a cloned credit card. It wasn't even him who went to the bank; it was the cardholder. This guy is a kid who literally scammed several projects and people out there.
 
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